From lucas@wasteland.org Mon Sep 16 11:25:19 1996 Received: (sendmail@localhost) by suburbia.net (8.7.4/Proff-950810) id LAA17026 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:25:19 +1000 Received: from srq04.netline.net(205.160.7.44), claiming to be "wrath.netline.net" via SMTP by profane.adso.com.au, id smtpd16955aaa; Mon Sep 16 01:24:33 1996 Received: from localhost (lucas@localhost) by wrath.netline.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA00141; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:23:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: wrath.netline.net: lucas owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:23:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Synthesizer Punk X-Sender: lucas@wrath.netline.net To: Tom Jackiewicz cc: "Bruce M." , best-of-security@suburbia.net Subject: Re: BoS: Re: Phrack vs. RealSecure In-Reply-To: <323C90A9.171396BB@upt.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Tom Jackiewicz wrote: :re: redragon being editor of phrack and involved with iss : :there's too much paranoia here. its amazing for me to see how someone :can't seem to be involved with computer security as well as be termed a :'hacker'. there are many people who do it and don't get much :persecution. : :hell, maybe some people are just jealous of redragon because he knows :more than just about everyone in the scene. the guy knows tcp/ip, is a :good programmer, and is a really nice guy. why he would have any enemies :amazes me. : :Just my two cents.. :(thought it was necessary since i happy to run UPT.ORG.. the place where :the post that started this thread came from). : :and another 2 cents.. :we don't censor our users so they can post whatever the hell they feel :like posting without me removing it off of the forums or posting :retractions in newsgroups. :-- :from the superkeen and highly electronic desk of... : : _ __/| Tom Jackiewicz : \'x.X' System/Network Security : =(___)= Senior Systems Administrator : U invalid@upt.org, invalid@goodnet.com : : ...fo ksed cinortcele ylhgih dna neekrepus eht morf In that case, here's four dollars: ReDragon isn't quite what you'd call a hacker. He's more of a security expert, or informational enthusiast like the many others. These daredeviles straddle the barbwire fence between security and hacking, in an attempt to absorb as much knowledge as they can. Often times, I've heard the type compared to an arms dealer with a war.. they SELL the guns, but they don't care wether Army A wins or Army B wins. They just strive for a profit. The same could be said for people in this situation, but pay sure as hell isn't involved 8^) ....... BTW, he's now one of the editors of Phrack magazine. cryptopsychonihilisticanarchaicstraightedgeinformationfreaksynthesizerpunk lucas@wasteland.org, ftp://valkyrie.wasteland.org, irc://irc.wasteland.org http://www.wasteland.org, information enthusiast extraodinaire.