From invalid@upt.org Mon Sep 16 09:29:28 1996 Received: (sendmail@localhost) by suburbia.net (8.7.4/Proff-950810) id JAA05797 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:29:27 +1000 Received: from upt.org(205.164.210.38), claiming to be "upt" via SMTP by profane.adso.com.au, id smtpd05767aaa; Sun Sep 15 23:29:13 1996 Received: from xterm (xterm.upt.org [192.168.10.2]) by upt (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA16339; Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:29:42 GMT Sender: invalid@UPT.ORG Message-ID: <323C90A9.171396BB@upt.org> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:26:33 -0700 From: Tom Jackiewicz Organization: Unphamiliar Territory X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce M." CC: best-of-security@suburbia.net Subject: Re: BoS: Re: Phrack vs. RealSecure References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit re: redragon being editor of phrack and involved with iss there's too much paranoia here. its amazing for me to see how someone can't seem to be involved with computer security as well as be termed a 'hacker'. there are many people who do it and don't get much persecution. hell, maybe some people are just jealous of redragon because he knows more than just about everyone in the scene. the guy knows tcp/ip, is a good programmer, and is a really nice guy. why he would have any enemies amazes me. Just my two cents.. (thought it was necessary since i happy to run UPT.ORG.. the place where the post that started this thread came from). and another 2 cents.. we don't censor our users so they can post whatever the hell they feel like posting without me removing it off of the forums or posting retractions in newsgroups. -- from the superkeen and highly electronic desk of... _ __/| Tom Jackiewicz \'x.X' System/Network Security =(___)= Senior Systems Administrator U invalid@upt.org, invalid@goodnet.com ...fo ksed cinortcele ylhgih dna neekrepus eht morf