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Subject: Re: BoS: ping flood
To: beckman@nova.org (Peter Beckman)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:43:28 -0700 (PDT)
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In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.960915003849.18071A-100000@epsilon.nova.org> from "Peter Beckman" at Sep 15, 96 00:41:33 am
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Peter Beckman's thoughts were:

| Would this cause a ping NOT to respond as "themachine is alive"?  Or would 

	Correct.

| this just reject MULTIPLE PINGS from a machine/IP in quick succession?
| Like not allow another ping from that machine/IP for another second or 2?

	The router should drop the traffic, NOT responding to it in any way.

| My guess is that your are cutting all PING packets at the router, thus 
| causing all your machines to be "un-pingable."

	Yup.  Unless you tunnel ICMP in something like UDP...;)

| As I am just learning the "inner-workings" of networking, what is an
| ICMP packet?  

"...
	The Internet Control Message Protocol is an adjunct to the IP layer.
It is a connectionless protocol used to convey error messages and other 
information to unicast addresses.  ICMP packets are encapsulated inside of IP
datagrams.  The first 4-bytes of the header are same for every ICMP message, 
with the remainder of the header differing for different ICMP message types.
There are 15 different types of ICMP messages.  
..."

	I also direct you to TCP/Illustrated vol I, or for an online source
of information, check out: ftp.infonexus.com/pub/Philes/NEtTech/TCP-IP/tcpIp.intro.txt.gz
and other files in that dir...


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