From soth@soth.users.mindspring.com Sat Sep 14 11:50:20 1996 Received: from bitcom.ch ([193.192.228.9]) by suburbia.net (8.7.4/Proff-950810) with SMTP id LAA28374 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 1996 11:49:41 +1000 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 11:49:41 +1000 From: soth@soth.users.mindspring.com Message-Id: <199609140149.LAA28374@suburbia.net> Received: from [193.192.228.39] by bitcom.ch (SMTPD32-3.00) id AF6724F0022A; Sat Sep 14 03:50:31 1996 Received: by scout.net (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 14 Sep 96 03:50:31 CET -of-security-request@suburbia.net Subject: BoS: Re: RealSecure To: ssi@UPT.ORG Cc: firewalls@greatcircle.com, best-of-security@suburbia.net Organization: The Global ScoutNet Organization > > Mr. Klaus, > > It's curious that your timing with your release of RealSecure(tm) > is markedly close to the release of Phrack Magazine issue 48 -- the very same > issue which released the tools you are mentioning. However, there is > something you are not mentioning which I think the public should know. litating ISS with tools to protect against it. Security products tend to be one step behind the hackers. > > Perhaps I am not driving this point home succinctly enough. If > so, let me lay this out in a very clear format for public consumption: > > I feel it is highly suspicious that you should release tool for RST'ing SYN > flooding attacks, at roughly the same time a hacker magazine (which one of > your employees edits) releases code for the above mentioned attacks. Have you considered that maybe the bumped up the production schedule to get something out to protect against it. Also note the evaluation is FREE!!!!! (although I expect they will over charge for it like their other products). > > > >RealSecure (tm) is a comprehensive attack recognition and real time response > >tool that ISS is alpha testing and will expire in 60 days. Unfortunately for all of us, These children who get their kicks by SYN flooding won't expire in 60 days. And what kinda a product name is RealSecure? ls -- Satan loves me this I know, Because the necronomcron tells me so.... Little Children Taste so good.. Just like Satan Said they would. -anon. God has no place in public schools, like facts have no place in organized religion. - The Simpsons The most obnoxious thing on the Internet _is_ the Kristian Kolition. -LS