-------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Mon May 27 19:25:17 1996 Organization: Auckland Institute of Technology X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:04:34 GMT+1200 From: "Lenny Bielski" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Kereberous !! Hi Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called Kereberous or something like that. I have tried yahoo, however as I cannot spell it correctly, the search engine is not of much use. Any help would be appreciated Cheers Lenny Network Communications / UNIX Adminstrator. Auckland Institute of Technology. New Zealand. - ----------------------------------------------------- * If we can dream it, we can build it. Gabagabagaba * Email: lbielski@ait.ac.nz Pony: Auckland Institute of Technology Private Bag, Wellesley Street. Auckland. New Zealand Web page: http://www.ait.ac.nz/~lbielski Talkd: lenny@hades.ait.ac.nz Phone: +64 9 3079999 Ext 8054 [answer phone] Cell: +64 025-897397 Fax: +64 9 3079901 - --------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Any comments made by myself, do not necessary reflect the views or opinions of the management at the Auckland Institute of Technology. Cheers Lenny Network Communications / UNIX Adminstrator. Auckland Institute of Technology. New Zealand. - ----------------------------------------------------- * If we can dream it, we can build it. Gabagabagaba * Email: lbielski@ait.ac.nz Pony: Auckland Institute of Technology Private Bag, Wellesley Street. Auckland. New Zealand Web page: http://www.ait.ac.nz/~lbielski Talkd: lenny@hades.ait.ac.nz Phone: +64 9 3079999 Ext 8054 [answer phone] Cell: +64 025-897397 Fax: +64 9 3079901 - --------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Any comments made by myself, do not necessary reflect the views or opinions of the management at the Auckland Institute of Technology. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Mon May 27 20:53:28 1996 X-Sender: johnson@bayflash cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <3A30AAD40BD@centre.ait.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:43:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Johnson (BUS)" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > Kereberous or something like that. The proper spelling is Kerboros. Metacrawler (http://metacrawler.cs.washington.edu) gathered 70 hits for it :) According to one of the sites: Kerberos is a "trusted third party" authentication system developed at MIT which allows clients and servers to authenticate and communicate securely over an untrusted network. It uses symmetric-key encryption technology (DES) to avoid passwords being sent over the network in the clear. You may also want to check out the Usenet newsgroup comp.protocols.kerberos And of course the good folks at O'Reilly and Associates (http://www.ora.com) no doubt have a book or two out on the subject. An issue you may be facing is that Kerberos may fall under ITAR and not exportable to New Zealand. Anything better than 40-bit DES key encryption gets the Virginia Farmboys and their buddies at the NSA upset. There is no doubt a foreign-bred version if this is the case. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Mon May 27 22:04:54 1996 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: from "Steven Johnson" at May 27, 96 09:43:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 19:59:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan Lawson To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > > Kereberous or something like that. > > The proper spelling is Kerboros. Nice try. The proper spelling is "Kerberos", which is the Latin version of the Greek name "Cerberus", three-headed dog of mythology fame. - -- Nate Lawson "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of CPE Senior evil to one who is striking at the root." CSL Admin -- Henry David Thoreau, 'Walden', 1854 -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 00:05:41 1996 X-Authentic-Sender: ctlehuy@rusty.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <3A30AAD40BD@centre.ait.ac.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:11:41 +0930 (CST) From: Nacht To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! On Tue, 28 May 1996, Lenny Bielski wrote: > Hi > > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > Kereberous or something like that. > Yes, from memory it is quite an old security pacakge. I rememerber reading about it in an old issue of phracck around 35ish or so. So yeah it is rather old. In works on the conecpt that each person needing to access the system needs to have a ticket to access certain things. I recall that to use kereberos you neeed a source liense ??? or something because it modifies the sun kernel code to be fully implemented. That's about all I can say... -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 04:43:06 1996 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 96 12:04:34 +1200." <3A30AAD40BD@centre.ait.ac.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mts: smtp Date: Tue, 28 May 96 10:36:58 +0100 From: P.Lister@cranfield.ac.uk To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > Kereberous or something like that. The Kerberos FAQ is at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/kerberos-faq/user/faq.html Peter Lister Email: p.lister@cranfield.ac.uk Computer Centre, Cranfield University Voice: +44 1234 754200 ext 2828 Cranfield, Bedfordshire MK43 0AL UK Fax: +44 1234 751814 --- Unfortunately, science isn't about happiness; it's about truth --- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMarJOE0IjEzZ62ARAQF2agP/aBh/xGU2ZFsxRVIexF4vhorNEdLs9tWJ /cmSx5vGnGv/esJvtEHAiTxucqowFALEJ3GZ2UGNQ5Zbj3GI/wgPKz8DPZWAAj7c YpcwQepgL9goYt99l62GOwxDT5NPIbeHay1QMWNp/f1LY973hTQoVW00Jlcb+HBR kRNeqHaxp7c= =2efa - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 05:34:21 1996 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 May 96 19:59:55 PDT." <199605280259.TAA17881@kdat.calpoly.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mts: smtp Date: Tue, 28 May 96 11:09:02 +0100 From: P.Lister@cranfield.ac.uk To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > Nice try. The proper spelling is "Kerberos", which is the Latin version of > the Greek name "Cerberus", three-headed dog of mythology fame. Cerberus is latin, Kerberos is Greek. :-) Peter Lister Email: p.lister@cranfield.ac.uk Computer Centre, Cranfield University Voice: +44 1234 754200 ext 2828 Cranfield, Bedfordshire MK43 0AL UK Fax: +44 1234 751814 --- Unfortunately, science isn't about happiness; it's about truth --- -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 06:04:46 1996 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <199605280259.TAA17881@kdat.calpoly.edu> from "Nathan Lawson" at May 27, 96 07:59:55 pm Organization: NTUA-NOC, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Home-Address: 7 Elvetias St., Agia Paraskevi GR15342, Athens, GREECE X-Home-Phone: +30-1-639-4-638 X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-861 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:00:38 +0300 (EET DST) From: y.adamopoulos@noc.ntua.gr Reply-To: y.adamopoulos@noc.ntua.gr To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > > The proper spelling is Kerboros. > > Nice try. The proper spelling is "Kerberos", which is the Latin version of > the Greek name "Cerberus", three-headed dog of mythology fame. And if you want to pronounce it correctly you have to say "Kerveros". "b" is "v" in Greek ;-) - -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos adamo@noc.ntua.gr National Technical University of Athens, NOC -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 06:50:51 1996 X-Sender: johnson@bayflash cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <199605280259.TAA17881@kdat.calpoly.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:42:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Johnson (BUS)" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! On Mon, 27 May 1996, Nathan Lawson wrote: > > > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > > > Kereberous or something like that. > > > > The proper spelling is Kerboros. > > Nice try. The proper spelling is "Kerberos", which is the Latin version of > the Greek name "Cerberus", three-headed dog of mythology fame. There's egg on my face. I don't know how I could have missed that typo. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 07:17:39 1996 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 96 14:11:41 +0930." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mts: smtp Date: Tue, 28 May 96 13:14:45 +0100 From: P.Lister@cranfield.ac.uk To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > I recall that to use kereberos you neeed a source liense ??? or something > because it modifies the sun kernel code to be fully implemented. MIT Kerberised NFS requires kernel tweaks only to implement NFS UID mapping. KNFS mountd is Kerberos authenticated, just like other Kerberised protocols. This has nothing to do with the NFS kernel code implementing the client side of a mount; once successfully mounted, KNFS simply trusts the UID/host pair. Peter Lister Email: p.lister@cranfield.ac.uk Computer Centre, Cranfield University Voice: +44 1234 754200 ext 2828 Cranfield, Bedfordshire MK43 0AL UK Fax: +44 1234 751814 --- Unfortunately, science isn't about happiness; it's about truth --- -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 08:02:33 1996 Organization: CIAT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0B2 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu References: <3A30AAD40BD@centre.ait.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:01:06 -0500 From: juank@CALIMA.CIAT.CGIAR.ORG Reply-To: juank@CALIMA.CIAT.CGIAR.ORG To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! Lenny Bielski wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > Kereberous or something like that. > I have tried yahoo, however as I cannot spell it correctly, the > search engine is not of much use. Hello Lenny, The correct word is KERBEROS. The Kerberos Authentication System serves two purposes: authentication and key distribution. If you want more information, you can now search on any search engine, or I recommend a great book: Firewalls and Internet Security: Repelling the Wily Hacker. Regards, - -- _________________________________________________________ ========================================================= Juan Carlos Machado Z. Information Management & Network Services Network Support C I A T Centro Internacional de Agricultura Tropical International Center for Tropical Agriculture Phone: (57-2) 4450-000 Ext. 3691 [Colombia] (1) (415) 833-6625 [USA/Direct] Fax: (57-2) 4450-073 [Colombia] (1) (415) 833-6626 [USA/Direct] E-mail: juank@ciat.cgiar.org j.machado@cgnet.com Mailing Address: CIAT, A.A 6713, Cali, Colombia ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Juank:= NOT(reflect(opinions' self,opinions' employer)) _________________________________________________________ -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 08:12:26 1996 In-reply-to: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 09:09:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Larry W. Austin" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! Lenny, There is a Kerberos Reference Page located at : http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~shadow/kerberos.html Hope this helps... Larry On Tue, 28 May 1996, Lenny Bielski wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > Kereberous or something like that. > -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 08:17:02 1996 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 28 May 1996 14:11:41 +0930. Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:13:39 CDT From: "What's in a name?" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! >> Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called >> Kereberous or something like that. >> >Yes, from memory it is quite an old security pacakge. I rememerber reading >about it in an old issue of phracck around 35ish or so. So yeah it is >rather old. In works on the conecpt that each person needing to access the >system needs to have a ticket to access certain things. > >I recall that to use kereberos you neeed a source liense ??? or something >because it modifies the sun kernel code to be fully implemented. > It called kerberos (three-headed guard dog of the teen age mutant ninja turtles, just kidding). It's a trusted third party authentication service. It originated from MIT's Athena project. You can find it at athena-dist.mit.edu or http://www.cygnus.com/. You don't need source license. You can also follow the discussion on comp.protocols.kerberos. _____ Phi H. Truong "No wisdom. No enlightenment. Only you." orion@iastate.edu ISU Computation Center Systems Analyst 237 Durham Center ph: (515) 294 - 1420 Phi Truong -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 17:09:53 1996 In-Reply-To: <199605280600.BAA24662@net.tamu.edu> from "academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu" at May 28, 96 01:00:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:44:11 +1200 (NZT) From: Russell Fulton To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: academic-firewalls Digest - Tuesday, May 28, 1996 > From: "Steven Johnson (BUS)" > > > Has anyone heard of a security package for UNIX called > > Kereberous or something like that. > > The proper spelling is Kerboros. Metacrawler > (http://metacrawler.cs.washington.edu) gathered 70 hits for it :) > [................] > > And of course the good folks at O'Reilly and Associates > (http://www.ora.com) no doubt have a book or two out on the subject. > > An issue you may be facing is that Kerberos may fall under ITAR and not > exportable to New Zealand. Anything better than 40-bit DES key encryption > gets the Virginia Farmboys and their buddies at the NSA upset. There is > no doubt a foreign-bred version if this is the case. Oh its a small world, I'm in an office just across the road from Lenni, their Internet connection goes through the our machine room.... In fact several vendors have got export licenses for Kerberos, we are looking at the Open VIssion server right now. It may have 40 bit keys for encryption but that is enough to protect student record which is the most sensitive data we deal with. (I have been told that the keys are 56 but have not actually verified that, I don't really care). Far more important, from our point of view, is the fact tha Kerberos allows authentication without clear text password ever hitting the net. If we want secure TCP session we are looking at using SSH. I already use it on UNIX to protect my X sessions. They have a windows version in beta and a Mac version in developement. +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Russell Fulton 'phone +64 9 373-7599 x 8955 | | ITSS fax +64 9 373-7425 | | University of Auckland email r.fulton@auckland.ac.nz | | Private Bag 92019 time gmt -12 (-13 oct - mar) | | Auckland, New Zealand. | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 19:38:33 1996 X-Sender: tintori@iol.ie X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:30:49 +0100 From: Piero Tintori To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! >An issue you may be facing is that Kerberos may fall under ITAR and not >exportable to New Zealand. Anything better than 40-bit DES key encryption >gets the Virginia Farmboys and their buddies at the NSA upset. There is >no doubt a foreign-bred version if this is the case. I was wondering could anybody answer a few questions concerning the above:- 1) Are the international versions of programs fully compatable with the US version? 2) I can understand the US version not being exportable to Iraq or North Korea but why do they exclude "friendly" nations such as Ireland and New Zealand? 3) Is the security much better with the US versions of these programs? I hope somebody can help me with these general questions which I have been wondering about for a while. Thanks in advance, Piero Tintori -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 20:05:09 1996 X-Authentic-Sender: ctlehuy@rusty.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <31AAF912.4DBB@ciat.cgiar.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:31:38 +0930 (CST) From: Nacht To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > If you want more information, you can now search on any search engine, or I > recommend a great book: Firewalls and Internet Security: Repelling the Wily > Hacker. I thoroughly recommend this book to anyone who is interested in security is rather wishywashy in style but comes across somehwere between a text book and a novel. Quite informative but if you are looking for somwetihng really in depth about security then look elsewhere... A good start who for people who are interested in security. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Tue May 28 23:21:21 1996 Date: Tue, 28 May 96 15:50:57 UT From: "Dean Frustaci" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Please put me on your mailing list. Thank You. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Wed May 29 01:52:08 1996 Encoding: 2 Text Date: Wed, 29 May 96 11:58:08 EST From: "RVASANTH" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: help help -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Wed May 29 07:52:15 1996 X-Sender: johnson@bayflash cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:31:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Johnson (BUS)" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: your mail On Tue, 28 May 1996, Dean Frustaci wrote: > Please put me on your mailing list. Thank You. No!!! This is the second message today from you requesting to be put on one firewall list or another. You need to do a little research on majordomo first. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Wed May 29 22:50:28 1996 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu, pkutm@psz.utm.my In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 28 May 96 12:04:34 Y.) Date: Thu, 30 May 96 11:03:34 -0500 From: pkutm@psz.utm.my To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! I think it is spelt kerberos -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Thu May 30 04:16:13 1996 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 96 22:30:49 BST." <199605282130.WAA10159@GPO.iol.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mts: smtp Date: Thu, 30 May 96 10:09:20 +0100 From: P.Lister@cranfield.ac.uk To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > 1) Are the international versions of programs fully compatable with the US > version? Yes. The international version is "eBones", which contains the US Kerberos code without des, linked with a non US des library. I can testify that it works fine. > 2) I can understand the US version not being exportable to Iraq or North > Korea but why do they exclude "friendly" nations such as Ireland and New > Zealand? It's not excluded per se, any more than US arms sales are excluded to "friendly" countries, it's just that an export license is required, since des is classed as a munition (just like a tank). Usually, there is a restriction that only code linked with des is exportable, not a linkable DES library. AFS, for instance, includes legally exportable Kerberos 4. > 3) Is the security much better with the US versions of these programs? In the case of Kerberos, it's the same algorithm, so the security is identical. This is not like the weak 40 bit SSL of Netscape. Peter Lister Email: p.lister@cranfield.ac.uk Computer Centre, Cranfield University Voice: +44 1234 754200 ext 2828 Cranfield, Bedfordshire MK43 0AL UK Fax: +44 1234 751814 --- Unfortunately, science isn't about happiness; it's about truth --- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMa1lvk0IjEzZ62ARAQEG+gP+KMfL4sXNFm1Su0a7VTKW2QgmW0hS1jAg 314QO4+7aKNw6bLwRjXSxjB3drGvtQvgIPd4JZMf7sK3yk9IAwsMByarCflLQuFQ zkQtgg29wa4RpDCX04Sdyr00BeWcXuwot8Ht4RVszzihZZk55OLwTtx7Eyl+Qz7d +5hk4HihMmA= =2viH - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Thu May 30 10:31:46 1996 Cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <9605301603.AA38514@psz.utm.my> from "pkutm@psz.utm.my" at May 30, 96 11:03:34 am Organization: NTUA-NOC, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer. X-Home-Address: 7 Elvetias St., Agia Paraskevi GR15342, Athens, GREECE X-Home-Phone: +30-1-639-4-638 X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-861 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:45:51 +0300 (EET DST) From: y.adamopoulos@noc.ntua.gr Reply-To: y.adamopoulos@noc.ntua.gr To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Kereberous !! > I think it is spelt kerberos [ok, it is off topic, I think this will be the last of the thread...] In greek it is written as Kerberos and it is "spoken" (pronounced) as Kerveros, period. It was a three headed dog that guarded the world of the dead. - -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos adamo@noc.ntua.gr National Technical University of Athens, NOC -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Fri May 31 09:06:51 1996 Date: Fri, 31 May 96 09:06:38 EST From: "Adam Pingitore" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re[2]: Kereberous !! why the FUCK AM I ON THIS GODDAMN LIST. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Fri May 31 12:28:13 1996 X-Sender: johnson@bayflash cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <9604318335.AA833555473@ccmail.wnyric.org> academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:55:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven Johnson (BUS)" To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: Kereberous !! On Fri, 31 May 1996, Adam Pingitore wrote: > why the FUCK AM I ON THIS GODDAMN LIST. Because someone thought that your horizons should be expanded. Since Elizabethean literature would have been wasted on you, you are here. Enjoy - there is no way off the list except to cancel your email account. -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Sat Jun 1 09:14:47 1996 cc: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <9604318335.AA833555473@ccmail.wnyric.org> academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 08:48:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Bruce M." To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: Kereberous !! On Fri, 31 May 1996, Adam Pingitore wrote: > why the FUCK AM I ON THIS GODDAMN LIST. Could it be due to your sparkling personality? I seem to remember you having trouble getting off another list just a month or so ago. Is this chronic ignorance or are you just good at faking it? Bruce M. * brucem@feist.com ~---------------------------------------------------~ "Knowledge enormous makes a god of me." -- John Keats -------- From academic-firewalls-owner@net.tamu.edu Sat Jun 1 11:48:27 1996 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 13:24:22 -0300 From: Nathan Gentry To: academic-firewalls@net.tamu.edu Subject: Your status Adam, You asked: >> why the FUCK AM I ON THIS GODDAMN LIST. I think that the rest of us have that same question on our minds. Nathan